Happy brithday John Doe.
It must be nice to be 29 years old and so wise.
I would like to hear more about
1. Your relationships with women
2.How you have broken the male dominated mind set, of the of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society.
new boy
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Women should
by John Doe inbe silent.
when they speak, they ought first to have permission from their husband.
if they are unmarried, then that is even greater reason for them to remain silent.
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Your World View
by Mincan ini recognised before i ever left the witnoids that once you did everything in your worldview would be unraveled.
as soon as i did make the decision it was bs, this began immediately.
i started to learn about all the things i had not been able to before for one reason or another.. major worldview shifts when leaving wt:.
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new boy
Yes interesting....
When they take away the "thought controls"....what are your thoughts?
The "Fun" thing about being a witless thinking is not required....You have the group mind "The Borg's mind."
Now it's like learning a foreign lanuage, in is a little uncomfortable in the begining, but well worth the effort.
Time to learn to think my friend.
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Disfellowshipping Experiences...
by feenx inhey all :)
so i am always curious about fellow ex dubs disfellowshipping experience.
mine was pretty retarded, well they had every reason to df me, but the whole process was asinine.
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new boy
After 9/11
I DAed myself.....I wasn't going to play their game....So I gave them the big F you.
The only reason to go to a JC is if you might think you would like to come back someday...I was pass the point of no return.
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are we inactive or what?
by inactive? ini would like someone to discuss some issues i have.
i understand all are welcome here, so i am sure some elders or former elders could help me.
i was a pioneer for 7 years, before that i was a regular auxiliarry pioneer for 3 years, i have been a witness for 17 years.
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new boy
Is it to late to post....did I miss the whole thing. To answer your question...
Yes! you are inactice.
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"Light Gets Brighter"
by new boy inthe wt says the bible warns us about false prophets (matt.
7:15)....and tells us we can see if they if they are false, if they say that they speak for god and make predictions in his name....yet the predictions don't come true.....the society has given no less then 6 dates for end of the world, the last being 1975.. plus false prophets change their minds on what god thinks too.. resurrection of men of sodom.
1879- they will be resurrected.
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new boy
Then you have...
The Lord in Romans 10: 12-16
1903- 'Lord' refers to Jesus
1940 -'Lord" refers to Jehovah
1978- 'Lord' refers to Jesus
1980- 'Lord' refers to Jehovah
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"Light Gets Brighter"
by new boy inthe wt says the bible warns us about false prophets (matt.
7:15)....and tells us we can see if they if they are false, if they say that they speak for god and make predictions in his name....yet the predictions don't come true.....the society has given no less then 6 dates for end of the world, the last being 1975.. plus false prophets change their minds on what god thinks too.. resurrection of men of sodom.
1879- they will be resurrected.
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new boy
The WT says the Bible warns us about false prophets (Matt. 7:15)....and tells us we can see if they if they are false, if they say that they speak for God and make predictions in his name....yet the predictions don't come true.....the society has given no less then 6 dates for end of the world, the last being 1975.
Plus false prophets change their minds on what God thinks too.
Resurrection of men of Sodom
1879- They will be resurrected
1952- They wiill not be resurrected
1965- They will be resurrected
1988- They will not be resurrected
Separating the "sheep and the goats"
1919- will take place after the time of tribulation
1923- is taking place now, before the tribulation.
1995- will take place after the time of tribulation.
I know the "light gets brighter".....but I guess God is on a dimmer switch some times!
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"Some of us are prisioners...Some of us are guards...
by new boy inyou may feel trapped right now by life conditions.. you are the only jail keeper that surfaces in your own life.. whenever you realize that you have the power to be free, freedom follows.. everything that you do in life is by choice, and you are free to choose again.. even prisioners are free to choose their thoughts so that they feel peace and happiness under any conditions.. love is the only answer....love of self and love of others.....even those who my be guards.
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new boy
The greatest illusion on the planet is that of separation....we are all the the same.
By sending love to those who who are locked into some kind of mind set, we free ourselfs of judgement.....and we are able to say "That, but for the grace of god go I." That under different circumstances the person we hate so much could be me .....Was that not what the great teacher said "Forgive them...for they know not what they do"
They were not "conscience" of what they were doing, as we have done things to others we were not "conscience" of.
Love is the greatest thing...
Everything in this world is done out of love or fear.
No mater what happens to you, ask the question "What would love....do now?"
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"Some of us are prisioners...Some of us are guards...
by new boy inyou may feel trapped right now by life conditions.. you are the only jail keeper that surfaces in your own life.. whenever you realize that you have the power to be free, freedom follows.. everything that you do in life is by choice, and you are free to choose again.. even prisioners are free to choose their thoughts so that they feel peace and happiness under any conditions.. love is the only answer....love of self and love of others.....even those who my be guards.
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new boy
You may feel trapped right now by life conditions.
You are the only jail keeper that surfaces in your own life.
Whenever you realize that you have the power to be free, freedom follows.
Everything that you do in life is by choice, and you are free to choose again.
Even prisioners are free to choose their thoughts so that they feel peace and happiness under any conditions.
Love is the only answer....Love of self and love of others.....even those who my be guards.
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If you were given $1M.....
by Jourles in...and the only stipulation for spending it was that you had to use it in some way against the wts, how would you use the money?
a tv campaign?
radio?
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new boy
The one thing the society hates more then anything is publisity so I woud...
Pay for a full page newspaper ad in ever major newspaper in the world, offering...a free program to break mind control.
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Tell Us About Your JW Father If You Had One.
by new boy inwe are great friends now....but he wasn't much of a father growing up.. worked all the time...we went on few vacations....pretty much pussy whipped my my nazis jw mother.. he never did believe in the whole jw thing.
he just when along with it, for my mothers sake.. she never did respect him for not being a "spiritual head" and pretty much let us kids know about it.. i, like my mother became very self rightious and judgmental.. i wished now he had just came to me just once and said "keith maybe the jws are not the people you think they are.
" but he was to afraid of my mother to say that...even though he knew it to be true.i would have never believed him....back then....but it would have planted a seed.... .
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new boy
My father was a socialapath. Loved people around, the life of the party. He treated his family completly different when there was no one to impress around....Plus we knew the real him. Thats why we always wanted to have company over....It was the only time Dad was cool....
He was a world class liar. He loved to impress his friends with stories that were at best maybe 50% true. I remember one time, I corrected him in front of his friends....he slapped the shit out of me....It was one of the few times he ever hit me.
Everytime I see him now (he is 85 years old)....He tells me the same stories he has for years as if I have never heard them before....Now I just smile and don't say a word.
He was a hard worker and I never saw him drunk, ever. He stayed with my mother even though she was one of the worst JW nut jobs on the planet. He was and is "Tony Soprino" He do anything for his friends....his enemys...different story.
He would and has given me the shirt off his back.
The most touching thing he ever said to me was "I know...I wasn't a very Good father...It's not because I didn't want to me...I didn't know HOW to be one"......Truth or lie...who knows.
I thought great, now things will change....that was 25 years ago.....same dad.
What is interesting after reading all the post here...That for most of us that even after all the shit our fathers have done to us...most of us still love them...and want to have that father son connection.
I know one thing, I love my father...I will never judge him...and who knows maybe he just like all the rest of the people on the planet....people who are doing the best they can with the "cards that were deal them."......people with the best intentions.